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Terror maometano

Enviado: 02 Jul 2009, 23:10
por Jack Torrance

Re: Terror maometano

Enviado: 03 Jul 2009, 04:01
por zumbi filosófico
Isso não é exclusivamente maometano, só mais comum. Existem cristãos que ainda defendem o apedrejamento até a morte por adultério, questionando a legitimidade (acho) do "atire a primeira pedra" e/ou a interpretação como uma "abolição" das leis de Jeová, segundo Moisés. Não sei quanto aos judeus.

Ex.:


Theology Questions: Execution for Adultery
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Many laymen and ministers misquote Jesus by repeating the liberal line, "He that is without sin, let him cast the first stone." I say 'liberal line' because this quote is not from the Bible and is certainly not what Jesus said. Jesus said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Jesus was speaking to the case before him and to a specific group; the Scribes and Pharisees. The Scribes and Pharisees had brought a woman who they claimed was caught in adultery before Him. Then they did their own misquoting of scripture saying,

"Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" John 8:5

It must be pointed out that their case had no merit because Moses in the law did not command what they said. Here is what Moses in the law actually commanded:

"And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." Leviticus 20:10

Where was the man? The Scribes and Pharisees did not bring a man because they were tempting Jesus to improperly render justice so that they could accuse Him. "They said this, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him." John 8:6

The law required both the man and the woman to be stoned. Jesus did not change the penalty for adultery and it remains the same today; "The adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." And what is an adulterer? "the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife."

The astounding thing about these few verses is how they have been twisted by ministers, and in lock step by their followers, in order to justify their tolerance of fornication in their own congregations. Fornication is rampant in the churches of America and nobody is doing anything about it! Listen! In November 2006 the President of the National Association of Evangelicals was ousted for "sexual immorality" of the worst kind, homosexual activity. I was not surprised because I have long preached that the churches are dens of iniquity from the top down and from the bottom up and I'm not surprised that they'll continue in their ways of fornication, pretending that their sexual immorality is "not that bad."

Now I'll go through some of the ways that the verses we have been discussing have been twisted by the immoral in the church. They're quite nutty but if you're like most Christians who've been brought up to accept western fornication as "not that bad" you likely believe some of these yourself.

Nutty twisting one:
Some Christians actually believe that this is a story of repentance yet there is not one place in this story where the woman repents!

Nutty twisting two:
Some Christians go so far as to change the meaning of the words in the story in order to claim that Jesus actually forgave the woman. Now remember, the woman never asked for forgiveness, healing, or anything at all. The Christians who claim Jesus forgave her say that He did so when when He said, "Neither do I condemn you." The actual word that is translated here as condemn means "to give judgment against." As I've explained earlier in this article. You cannot judge an adultery case without the man, the adulterer, present for there will be a stoning as soon as judgment is rendered and both the "adulterer and the adulteress" must be stoned. That is all Jesus was saying. Did he say I judge you innocent? No. Did he say you'll never be tried for this crime again? No, that would be illogical since she wasn't tried for adultery that day and that was only because the adulterer was not present.

Nutty twisting three:
Some Christians want to see Jesus as standing between the woman accused and her accusers as if they wanted to stone her. There was nothing further from their minds. They didn't want to stone her, they brought her before Jesus, "tempting him, that they might have to accuse him." Tempting him to what? Tempting him to stumble and say, "Ok, let's hear the case." They wanted Jesus to do that so that they could boast that he had not upheld the law because the adulterer was not present and the law required that both the adulterer and the adulteress be stoned. If Jesus had said, "Ok, let's hear the case," they certainly would not have gone along with it. They would have shouted, "This man is not a prophet for he breaks the law. The law says that we must stone the adulterer and the adulteress. This man cannot be a prophet for he wishes to put on trial and stone the adulteress without the adulterer!"

Nutty twisting four:
Some Christians believe that Jesus did away with the death penalty for adultery. Jesus did no such thing. Jesus simply refused to hear a case that was not brought before him in accordance with the law.

The Evil Twisting - Anti-Semitic twisting:
Some preachers are so disgusting that they don't even know they're anti-Semitic when they preach. They have preached that when Jesus said, "he who is without sin among you," that He was accusing the Scribes and the Pharisees of having committed adultery with the woman! Those pastors who preach such anti-Semitic sermons should be thrown out of their ministries without delay. They are liars and they are Jew haters. The Bible says clearly that those who hate Jews will be cursed. They will bring curses upon their churches, the members of the churches that support their ministries, and if there are enough of such anti-Semitic preachers in a nation they will bring those curses down upon an entire nation. Concerning the promised descendants of Abraham, the nation of Israel, the Lord says:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Genesis 12:3

Any ministers reading this who have preached falsely concerning any of these verses that are clear to any non-biased reader must repent and teach in accordance with the Bible, nothing more and nothing less.

Note: Although the oldest and most reliable manuscripts do not include the story of the woman "caught" in adultery, the story is not inconsistent with what Jesus taught when understood in context.



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Re: Terror maometano

Enviado: 03 Jul 2009, 11:53
por Acauan
Para os padrõees daqueles bárbaros, o vídeo mostra mais uma humilhação pública do que um açoitamento. É visível que o barbudo não impõe força ao braço quando bate e o faz sobre aquele monte de roupa que as mulheres de lá são obrigadas a usar, o que deve ter tido o efeito físico de umas palmadas, embora o efeito moral seja devastador.

Re: Terror maometano

Enviado: 03 Jul 2009, 12:17
por Viajante
Acauan escreveu:Para os padrõees daqueles bárbaros, o vídeo mostra mais uma humilhação pública do que um açoitamento. É visível que o barbudo não impõe força ao braço quando bate e o faz sobre aquele monte de roupa que as mulheres de lá são obrigadas a usar, o que deve ter tido o efeito físico de umas palmadas, embora o efeito moral seja devastador.


E a voz da menina?

Re: Terror maometano

Enviado: 03 Jul 2009, 14:09
por Apo
Sabem...ando me protegendo um pouco de ver tais atos.

Preciso resguardar a minha alma desta corja, ou é capaz de eu perseguí-los no Inferno depois de morta! Lá não tem lei que impeça de fazer o que tenho vontade! :emoticon2:

Escroto da humanidade!