Malteismo - Deus existe e é maligno

[Dante, the Wicked]

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What Do Maltheists Believe?

We believe:



that the God described in the Bible, the Koran, and many other religious texts does indeed exist, as evidenced by his influence on the physical world throughout history.


that all the various incarnations of the voice of God as manifested in people of a wide variety of religious persuasions and influences indeed represent the same one God.


that, judging from the evidence of history, and from the evidence of God's own word as found in his religious texts, this God is a right bastard, an abusive bully who extorts whorship from human beings to feed his need for power.


that, in his quest to garner more and more power by making people whorship him, God has expended enormous energy on public relations propaganda to make him SEEM benevolent and omnipotent, as he takes credit for all the good things that happen while shirking blame for the evil and suffering in the world (which you would think an omnipotent being would be equally responsible for: note how gleefully God takes credit for saving people after disasters, but does not take responsibility for the ACTS OF GOD that caused those disasters to happen).


that people from the earliest days of history knew about God's nature (embedding coded messages into religious texts revealing what God is really like to discerning readers) but thought it "better" to placate and pacify him than to stand up to him, resulting in millennia of severe religious indoctrination that has succeeded to the point that most people in the world cannot even imagine the possibility that God is not what he says he is.


that these systems of religious brainwashing (or "blamewashing") have resulted in the majority of the world's population becoming sheepish slaves to this pig, offering him whorship and trying to spread the word to others about how "good" God is (note the resemblance to the abusive family, in which the drunken father mistreats his wife and children, takes credit for things THEY do, while he claims that he "loves" them, to the point that the cowed victims of his abuse actually believe that his abuse IS love!)


that, if we are strong and stand up to this pig by ceasing to offer him whorship, he will wither up and die.


that we can help to make this happen--not by the evangelistic haranguing or forceful missionary action characteristic of God whorshipers' methods for "spreading the faith"--but by educating, offering examples, showing the people of the world that there IS an option other than sheepishly kowtowing to this beast.


that the most important thing is how we treat each other as human beings--that putting God above or before humanity denigrates our worth, that allowing him to define "good" according to his wants and needs with no respect for our wants and needs is a mockery of any definition of goodness, and that people who have succumbed to God's "blamewashing" and actually believe that God gets to define "good" on his terms are victims of tyrannical oppression by an horrific beast monster.

[o anátema]

não tem em Isaías ##:## algo como "eu sou deus, e sou autor de todo bem e de todo mal"?

[Luis Dantas]

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What Do Maltheists Believe?

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that these systems of religious brainwashing (or "blamewashing") have resulted in the majority of the world's population becoming sheepish slaves to this pig, offering him whorship and trying to spread the word to others about how "good" God is (note the resemblance to the abusive family, in which the drunken father mistreats his wife and children, takes credit for things THEY do, while he claims that he "loves" them, to the point that the cowed victims of his abuse actually believe that his abuse IS love!)


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that we can help to make this happen--not by the evangelistic haranguing or forceful missionary action characteristic of God whorshipers' methods for "spreading the faith"--but by educating, offering examples, showing the people of the world that there IS an option other than sheepishly kowtowing to this beast.


that the most important thing is how we treat each other as human beings--that putting God above or before humanity denigrates our worth, that allowing him to define "good" according to his wants and needs with no respect for our wants and needs is a mockery of any definition of goodness, and that people who have succumbed to God's "blamewashing" and actually believe that God gets to define "good" on his terms are victims of tyrannical oppression by an horrific beast monster.

O conceito de "deus" que se usa em certos meios é tão bizarro que o Malteísmo acaba fazendo bastante sentido.

Tempos atrás eu vi um texto na Internet Infidels mostrando como é inútil e sem sentido esperar que Deus seja a origem (em vez da representação simbólica) do bem e do mal. Algo assim como "se Deus aprovasse o estupro, ele seria certo?". Queria encontrá-lo e traduzi-lo.

[Flavio Costa]

não tem em Isaías ##:## algo como "eu sou deus, e sou autor de todo bem e de todo mal"?

"Eu formo a luz, e crio as trevas; eu faço a paz, e crio o mal; eu sou o Senhor, que faço todas estas coisas" (Isaías 45:7).

[Lúcifer]

Falando em traduzí-lo...alguém poderia, por gentileza, fazer no mínimo, um resumo traduzido?
Nem todos mandam bem no inglês.

[Flavio Costa]

Falando em traduzí-lo...alguém poderia, por gentileza, fazer no mínimo, um resumo traduzido?
Nem todos mandam bem no inglês.

Se servir: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malte%C3%ADsmo

[O ENCOSTO]

Aquela tribo do filme do King Kong pode ser considerada Malteista?